new desktop! horray!

Category: Geeks r Us

Post 1 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 2:02:00

Well, thanks to squiggles or cody, I have a new tower in my room that is for my personal use! Heres the thing though. He ran a tool called XP Light. Now, I'm not sure if it did anything or not, but he took out a bunch of things that he says that the tower will no longer need. But when I installed itunes, it won't run. He says to reboot and try. Now, if a bunch of u guys r just gonna wcome in here, and hear the word itunes and start posting about how shitty and stupid and crapy itunes is, save your fingers some typing. I don't care. Get it? I. Don't. Care. I've been using itunes for a while now, I like it, I really don't care what u guys think about it. Now, heres the other thing. My tooth hurts, because of his head. O wait, that should go in a different topic. My tooth is chipped, he has a nice mark on the top of his head. :) Ok, yeah. Cody says he hasn't put an anti virus program on here yet. I just wanted to know your thoughts on some ones. He did put C Cleaner on here, but so far, that's the only thing I've seen. Also, he gave me a program called Quick 'n Easy FTP. I got the FTP online, but when he tries to see what files r in my folder, he says he's seeing nothing, though when I go into it from the hard drive (run, C: name of folder), I see the file sitting in their. Any reasons y this might be happening? Other then these few questions, I am loving this new tower. Thanks cody for it. Awesome birthday present! L8r, Mike.

Post 2 by AsianSensation (Veteran Zoner) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 3:45:15

Is it too late to register for summer school?

Post 3 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 4:52:10

I'd put my money on xplite. Tools like that and nlite are great for stripping stuff, its just that if you have a modded xp as your primary os your gonna find something that doesn't work due to some weird dependency issue
If I remember correctly, xplite deels with the os once its installed and will also let you reinstate the parts that you took out so perhaps you could give that a try.
A word to the wise though - if the spec of the desktop worantsthe use of a stripped xp then i really dunno how well itunes will run. Dependent on the spec of the desktop, perhaps use some birthday money to buy some more ram?
Also, one of the fundimental rules of the computer, don't go on the internet unless you have anty virus installed. Your slightly protected if you are using a router, but if you have a modem connected streight to your computer, then your just asking for trouble.
I have avast on my machines at home - very accessable, fairly lite on resources and its free, although its let 2 things through in the past 2 months, but one of them was picked up by counterspy.

Post 4 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 12:21:28

Thanks. I was thinking of giving that one a try. Yes,I have a rowder. I also found out that super anti spy is good. Has anyone ever heard of this?

Post 5 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 14:13:53

See how much performance you loose with avast and counterspy and so long as its still useable put sygate personal firewall on there.

Post 6 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 16:22:31

Here are the specs of the tower, it is an old dell.

p3 1 ghz
512 mb of ram and I wouldn't stick any more. if it were to hold any more 768 would be the max, though both slots are filled.
There is a 10 gb hard drive, and i couldn't find any larger ones in my room. if I find one I'll see if i can install it, though you might have to buy one if you realy want a larger one.

I run Avast, but didn't like it for some reason. Clam win doesn't do automatic scans which i personally like.

You can reinstate things that xp lite has removed, but you need the xp disk which he doesn't have.


iTunes.....hmmmmm. lol

Post 7 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 19:11:18

Processors fine - my daily use box is a 1ghz but itunes might still be a bit hit and miss.
Rams fine - but i'm guessing that if its a 1ghz its going to be sd ram. If we have 2 slots with a 256 in each, your gonna have to get a stick of 512 for it to make any difference which is going to get expencive very quickly.
As with any system, the biggist bottle nec is the harddrive as it is the only component that contains moving parts. Whilst the size of the drive is important, people have a tendency to over look the speed of the drive - this is done more often these days as drives are fast enough.
Your typical retail drive comes in at 7200 rpm.
As a guide, I remember the first 10 gb drive that I had was a 3600 rpm although some are 4200.
I would guess that the most cost effective way of increasing the speed of this comp would be to get it a new drive. You don't need to shell out overly lots, you can get 40 gig drives that are 7200 for dirt cheap on ebay. As a guide, my daily use box which is also a 1ghz with 512mb ram got noticeabley quicker when I swapped the harddrive from a 5400rpm one to a 7200.
The only problem i'm thinking of here is that he's going to have to fit it and then do a os install and trust me, you would want the faster drive as your os one and you would probably keep the 10 in there as a slave.

Should be worth it over all though imo.

Post 8 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 20:14:08

Thanks I'll give that a try, and see how everything turns out.

Post 9 by YankeeFanForLife! (Picapiedra: king of the boards!) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 20:18:09

iTunes kicks ass!

Post 10 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 22-Jun-2008 23:27:02

THank u! Finally some one else! :D O, and thanks to al the suggestions. Hers what I did. I installed Avast! free, sygate, and super anti spyware. I couldn't find counter spy. Will sygate scan my computer every time I turn it on? When it rebooted, after the Windows XP logo, a screen like the error checking screen popped up, and at the top I could just make out Sygate scanning, and at the bottom it said how many files it had scanned so far. Will it do this every time, or just that one time? O, and one more thing. I tested out my FTP, by connecting to it myself. I could just fine, however Cody still can't. I'll try on this laptop, and see what happens. Once again, thanks all for your suggestions. l8r, Mike.

Post 11 by b3n (I'm going for the prolific poster awards!) on Monday, 23-Jun-2008 14:17:35

the scanning was avast, sygate is a firewall, it won't do a boot scan again unless you tell it to.
And the one suggestion that i'm really sure won't help about your ftp, the files don't happen to be in a sub folder of documents and settings do they?
The only reason that I say that is unless you use the c$ admin shares in xp, stuff inside that folder isn't accessable by default unless you set permisions. I kno that this is ftp and not fps, but perhaps windows is doing something strange with the permisions that your server can't deal with?
One other thought, could squiggles actually be inadvertently ftping into your router due to you not configgering port forwarding?

Post 12 by skpoet711 (Zone BBS is my Life) on Monday, 23-Jun-2008 17:38:28

I rather liked counterspy, but jaws 9 wouldn't work too well with it. Even with the use of the jaws cursor :(. So now I use trend micro pro, windows defender, spybot, and my system is as squeaky clean as it can be.
I tried nod32 for the 30day trial and found jaws too won't work too well with it. Can't view the list of viruses/spywares. I simply scanned it with full scan and hope it did its job.
Windows defender is very accessible and free.
Trend micro pro costs but very accessible through its web browser-like interface.
Spybot is free.
I second the fact on faster rpm makes for faster drive resulting to a faster system..

Post 13 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Monday, 23-Jun-2008 18:46:52

My files r in C:New Folder.

Post 14 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Monday, 23-Jun-2008 19:04:38

Ok, for those of you who are not network savi, it is impossible to ftp into a router itself. Unless it is a cisco router and it is running a tftp server on port 69, then there is no way to do this. Remember, this is a consumer grade router. Besides, if I really wanted to torment mike I'd just go over there myself. So, no, I'm not trying to hack mike if you are trying to put it that way.

Post 15 by jeffreyshockley (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Friday, 27-Jun-2008 19:58:13

I! hate! Windows! Defender! It sucks!
What's the use in running the extra firewall when Windows already has one, even though it's not the best in the world?
Also, most consumer routers have a firewall built in (at least this Belkin one we use here does.)
Specs look pritty good. It'll serve Mike's needs just fine.
Quick and Easy FTP works just fine here, don't know what the problem was with that.
I'm sure Cody already did the admin permissions stuff when he gave Mike the Dell desktop.
I don't use itunes, because I don't need to.

Post 16 by ¤§¤spike¤§¤ (This site is so "educational") on Friday, 27-Jun-2008 22:06:40

to post 15:
Sygate is there because it does something which the Windows one, won't, provide outbound protection.
In English, this means, if an application wants to access the net, Sygate alerts you of this.
This has saved me once, when I got a piece of adware that was using Explorer.exe to connect to an unknown IP address.
Would I not have had Sygate, I don't know what explorer.exe would've done, what other stuff it would've gotten or downloaded.
None of the other new firewalls, Comodo, Online Armor are accessible.
Can anyone else whose tried them prove or disprove my last statement, if so, which ones are accessible other than Sygate and Kerio, now known as Sunbelt Personal Firewall?

Post 17 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Friday, 27-Jun-2008 23:09:13

zone alarm used to be somewhat accessible but still you hade to route the jaws cursor to pc.

Post 18 by Austin (the magic fan!) on Saturday, 28-Jun-2008 3:03:32

have you tried to dmz your router? i found that is way easier then playing with port forwarding... just an idea.

Post 19 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Saturday, 28-Jun-2008 19:42:19

Hey guys, we now have the FTp up and running. For some reason cody was able to access it through the command line, and now we r able to access it through IE and I believe firefox and windows explorer. It still won't work correctly with filezilla, and we're all not sure y, but now Squiggles, South park fan, Screaming Turtle, and I think jeffreyshockley r able to access it with no problems. I switched to using clamwin because avast! slowed down this machine extremely, and clamwin scans on command, something I like. I am also using sygate, but for some reason it will not let me register the product. For spyware, I'm using super anti spyware, and taht is just working fine. Thanks for all the help. l8r, Mike.

Post 20 by skpoet711 (Zone BBS is my Life) on Sunday, 29-Jun-2008 2:06:48

dmz is dangerous

If I recall correctly, its like opening everything wide open for anyone to snoop.

comodo is the most inaccessible firewall I've ever experienced.
Too bad, since its free.

Post 21 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Sunday, 29-Jun-2008 2:27:21

THat's y i'm not gonna do DMZ. It opens up all ports doesn't it? Not somethig I wanna do.

Post 22 by jeffreyshockley (the Zone BBS remains forever my home page) on Sunday, 29-Jun-2008 17:31:12

All 65000 ports, I think.

Post 23 by ¤§¤spike¤§¤ (This site is so "educational") on Sunday, 29-Jun-2008 21:01:15

Its actually 65535 tcp and UDP ports that dmz opens up...;)

Post 24 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Wednesday, 02-Jul-2008 6:29:05

never ever do that I dont' care who you are. I personally don't use a firewall, because if one has an up to date hosts file that acts as one. Why install loads of programs if they are not needed? This goes for spyware and viruses as well, though antivirus is still good to have.
Per Mike's ftp issue. Port 20 did not need to be opened. When you forward port 21 it will automatically forward port 20 and open it if needed. What the issue was was that we could connect just fine, but couldn't list directories which has nothing to do with port 20 which is the ftp data connection port. Somehow it works now I have no idea why but it does. Tunnling in through cmd worked either way so I dont' care.

Post 25 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Wednesday, 02-Jul-2008 22:29:01

The only thing it doesn't seem to like is if u use filezilla and try to connect with that. It won't pull up the directory listing, but as cody said, we can get in through command prompt, internet, and windows explorer.

Post 26 by Austin (the magic fan!) on Monday, 14-Jul-2008 3:06:20

ah i didn't think about that... dmz does open all ports but im not worried.. i'm lazy and didn't feel like fucking with port forwarding... i know how to do it but i'm lazy as i said. plus i have good firewalls and stuff so no worries here.

Post 27 by blindndangerous (the blind and dangerous one) on Monday, 14-Jul-2008 9:43:04

Not a fan of DMZ. Otherwise, I woulda done it.

Post 28 by Squiggles (Account disabled) on Monday, 14-Jul-2008 15:32:36

laziness will cause you to pay the price later on, software firewalls aren't always going to get your back.